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#17313 04/01/06 10:20 AM
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To Aston Martin,
Our post was matched to a Band 4 after submitting a JEQ back in May 2005. We were previously MTO3's with 2 stars so obviously "unhappy" (place appropriate swear words where applicable!) with the outcome. We sought to get JD's and AFC outcomes from neighbouring hospitals/trusts (they were more than helpful) who had been matched higher to ourselves. This added weight to our argument, when going for a re-match which has ended with us being matched to a Band 6 Specialist Tech.

#17314 04/01/06 12:48 PM
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Sounds like you are all being right royally screwed over in the UK. Best of luck.


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#17315 04/01/06 1:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jill Cloherty:
MTO4** Band 7
-£155.00 per anum because of the rules
what a wonderful christmas present from Mr. Blair
What do you mean by "-£155.00 per anum because of the rules"? the band 7 scale is much higher than MTO4** and you MUST be placed on a spine point higher or equal to your pre afc pay.

If you are not at the top of the scale and have had an increment (pre AFC) that is larger than the afc one then pay protection should apply as per final terms and conditions handbook section 46.20

"The level of pay before assimilation for the purpose of this calculation will be the average level of the payments in the left-hand column of Table 7 above over a reference period of twelve weeks or three months ending at the assimilation date except:
....where this period includes the annual pay award due in April 2005 or an annual increment, the protected amount should be adjusted as if that award or increment had applied throughout the reference period;"

The assimilation date refered to is the actual date not the effective date of OCT 04, as proved by the reference to the April 2005 pay award

Pay protection for qualfied MTO's = R+R premium. Most Trust HR departments don't wish to recognise the existence of the above paragraph but it is there in black and white, and they have signed up to afc so HOLD THEM TO IT. (They will try to argue that it only applies to increments prior to Oct04 but it is clear from the above that this is not the case)

#17316 05/01/06 2:22 PM
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Our Equipment Library Co-ordinator has been matched against this profile -
Supply Chain Assistant, higher level = Band 3.
His previous grade was A&C 4.

Cheers
Mark

#17317 06/01/06 5:08 PM
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Here are the results from Eastbourne:

MTO4 Section head = Band 6 Specialist Medical Engineering Tec
MTO3*** = Band 5 Local evaluation, EME Technician

Appeal lodged. Any band 7 jobs going out there? I don’t appreciate the pay cut.

Also now stuck at the top of the band any reference to KSF is useless. Whatever I do (or don't do) won't affect my career pathway in the NHS.


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#17318 06/01/06 5:41 PM
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Mark and everbody alse in the appeal process!!

Dont give up with that appeal, many engineers in the midlands have successfuly won their appeals!!!

From my very cynical viewpoint, it appeared staff were being offered the lowest grade payroll thought they could get away with, only to reverse the decision later.

As for sorting out back pay - AHHH!

Now back to my JAQ, wish me luck!!


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#17319 11/01/06 2:16 PM
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Thank you to Mark N for the copy of your JD. Most useful.

I am busy going through the appeals process at the moment. Please could any one be so kind and e-mail a copy of there JAQ. Hopefully this may help the process run smoothly.

The up side of AFC, today I was given six more annual leave day to take before April. Maybe not all HR people useless scumbags.

If any body wishes a copy of my JD or JAQ, please e-mail me. Thank you for your help.

A.M smile


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#17320 18/01/06 5:27 PM
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East Kent Medical physics (including rehab engineering)results so far are

MTO5 = Band 8b

ALL MTO4 = Band 7 (all matched with one job description apparently, though 7 were submitted varying widely)

all MTO 3 = band 6 ( again only one JD appears to have been used by HR)

#17321 19/01/06 9:29 AM
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Dose anybody know if being a member a of the VRCT help gain you extra banding points for AFC.

Thank you.

A.M smile


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#17322 19/01/06 11:30 AM
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Yes I know. Being a member of the VRCT empties your pocket of £10 and does not entitle you to any extra AFC points. Or any other benefits come to think of it boggle boggle


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