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No don't know of any, but if i'm right or if anybody can clarify it, Without having this registration in the not so distant future you will not be able to work as a medical electronics engineer in the health service and I even wonder if you are an external company engineer whether they should be registered aswell.

If you are correct then derlwynn, its back to the 70s and the good old " Closed Shop " beloved of the Mighty Militant Trade Unions !!! Come back Arthur Scargill, Derk Hatton, Red Robbo all is forgiven !!!!

Your view then Tony is we can all call ourselves Brain Surgeons and practice accordingly

I think all registration means in practice is that individuals' will not be able to work in job roles that have registered titles - employees in these job-roles will have to meet the requirements of registation and be regulated in this case. For regulation to work, i.e. to ensure a skilled/trained workforce, that meets HPC requirements, then employers have to employ individuals in regulated job-roles only. Otherwise things will probably carry on as usual for those that don't have registered job-roles, irrespective of regulation.

It'll be a lot faster, and probably easier, to join the voluntary register and transfer over than it will to join up under HPC rules. Plus I believe that voluntary registration did help in our gradings, as we were able to put in the job descriptions that the profession was becoming registered, and as such the BASE qualification is a degree equivalent. Hence the (accepted by our matching panels) argument that mto4's are Msc. level qualified. (if pushed we could have shown that some of us have degrees and recorded evidence of more than two years intensive classroom type specialist training during our careers, but no questions were asked )

If you don't register you should still be able to work but only in a "supervised" position afaik

Paul

Update: We are finally getting the correct matching report through, and the posts have been matched individually, as far as I can tell.
The Mto 5 matched to the generic "Healthcare Scientist Professional Manager" profile (initially asked for JAQ but panel were asked to consider this profile)

These Healthcare Scientist profiles seem good (generous) ones to get matched to if you can. They should be taking over from all the different technician/technologist profiles.
Robert

Does anyone have a link to the Healthcare Scientist profiles?

Hello. I hope this gets you in!

>>> Health science services - Agenda for Change national job profiles


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Extract from National Profiles for Healthcare Science

Page 1 of 18 23 November 2005:

One thing that surprises me is that Medical Technology, i.e. EBME-like Engineering job profiles, are in a seperate part of Heathcare Services portfolio despite the Medical Physics Engineering profiles, in the Clinical Sciences, being almost identical. Does this imply that Engineers and Technologists in EBME will not necessarily be considered "on-par" with "Engineers" and "Technologists" performing similar maintenance roles in Medical Physics?

Or does it mean, possibly in the future, that those working in Medical Physics will be matched to Medical Technology and subsequently identical HCS profiles - to bring similar or identical job roles in-line? Otherwise there is the potential for discrepancies in HCS matching applied in the future depending upon whether individuals are working in Medical Physics or EBME.

Differentiation between individuals doing the same job but working in different types of organisation might impact on the requirements of KSF, NOS and regulation in future despite almost identical roles. Is this the point where we see divergence between ex-MTOs employed in equipment maintenance, possibly working in EBME and those ex-MTOs working in Medical Physics regarding profiling for Healthcare Science roles in the future? Just a thought - particularly if it affects job-mobility (between EBME and Medical Physics and vice-versa) in the future.

I guess the majority in Medical Physics have been matched to Medical Physics profiles and those in EBME have been matched to the Medical Technology profiles.