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I tend to agree with the sentiments. One comment recently made was - given the difficulties recruiting to some posts and the reducing workforce available, it is a bit odd to have the response of raising the level of entry requirements, as seems to be the case.

That aside, if being in the VRCT makes it easier when the change comes, this must be a benefit.

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Surely the point of registration is a recognition of the fact that we are a professional body involved in health care. Does the same negative arguments apply to nurses and other medical staff who must have state registration before they are allowed to work in a health care role.
I for one think it is better for us that the role we carry out is considered important enough to need state registration.
Is it not time we promoted our profession rather than holding it back by negative arguments.

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I feel that when registration becomes the requirement for all,the unions should take the lead from the teachers who campaigned, and won, for their annual pay award to ALSO include a one-off payment equal to that of their annual registration fee.

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AGAT,what are you on about?

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BobbyP,

If the employer wants the employee registered, the employer picks up the tab!

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Agree with you Eagle. Just seems to be another stealth tax.


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Some of you have lost the plot.

It is not about today, tomorrow, next year, but onwards for a profession.

Some of you talk of others. What has Medical Physics got to do with it? Indivdual people take on a role, are perfect at what they do.

I am not a Physicist, stop slating them, they are good at what they do.

Are you not the same?

Give a pat on the back to yourself and be proud of who and what you are, not others.


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Jim,
I agree that we should promote our profession as equal to any other, including Physics professions.
I have made very good friends in Physics professions - But there are not many physicists who understand the complexities of device management - and there is nothing worse than working for a manager who thinks we are 'lamp and fuse changers'. I digress - Registration will happen, we should take it on board and get involved. Although IPEM hold the register, you do not have to join IPEM. IPEM 'hold' the register in a secretariat role. The IIE and other institutes have also been closely involved.


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Jim, What do Physicists actually do? I can understand nuclear medicine ones reporting scans but bio-engineering physicists?????


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Registration can only be a good thing. It will not only give recognition for the facts that we do make decisions and carry out actions that do effect the levels of care actual patients do recieve and the rate that they recover.
Maybe the tasks that we carry out arent as obvious as a surgeon carrying out an operation,
or a nurse taking blood pressure but how would they achieve their roles without the equipment to do it.
Also the registration will hopefully apply to suppliers and third party service engineers, so ensuring that these bods that actually fix equipment are fully experienced in what they are doing.
Of cause the only real way forward with this registration once implemented will be for the EBME managers out there to make sure that only registerd bods are allowed to work on equipment that is deemed to warrant it. Otherwise its going to be pointless.
Hopefully the registration will encompass some sort of structure to ensure that only recognised bods are allowed to carry out certain levels of work.
Also I thought that was where physisists came into the big schemme of things. They are the people responsible for research and the likes whilst we maintain and repair things. And there are some very good ones and some bad, just like Med Eng Techs or what ever they call us.
As a member of IPEM Ive read the info thats been flying around for a while and I can only say that if the bods that have got involved at IPEM had been as negative as some of us then we,d still be people with no future and the suppliers would be rubbing their pockets at the thought of all the service contracts they where going to get as the NHS dumps a load of handy lads (and lasses) because nobody will take quite nows what they do.

Anyway thats that off me chest. rolleyes

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