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Hi DW,



Just out of interest were the MOD individuals employed in biomedical engineering previously or were they looking for employment at the end of their term in the forces?

Perhaps they didn't meet the criteria for funding from the NHS? Can't really blame the NHS for that if they're employed by the MOD I suppose.

Heres one for Richard.

You said about an exavionics tech walking straight into a band 6.

Well it happens and not too far from where I am sitting. No medical back ground.

To add to it someone with a back ground in Radar that I have worked with is on a Band 7.

So sorry if this upsets the band wagon but it doesnt take a life time in the medical field to do this job.

Good sound reasoning and a logical approach with good inter- personal skills.

Billy

Well said bcarlisle
And i would like to see anybody, whether staight from college with a Clinical Technology degree or not, do the job from day one. No matter what, everyone needs on the job training and nobody is deemed competent until they are trained on and familiar with specific kit (and thats law!)
And by the way, medical equipment (in my opinion) is nowhere near as complicated as Defence equipment and it never will be!
The body is a (fairly stable, predictable and understood) machine. The enemy isn't.
Topper

Re: Mr Ling

The MOD individuals are employed in the biomedical engineering field are called MDSS - they only way Navy/Army/RAF MDSS are allowed on the course is if they come from medical engineering background.

Getting funding from the MOD is a bit of a nightmare, the MOD provide enhanced learning credits (£6000) which can be used for further education and can be used up to 10 years after leaving the forces, however recently people leaving the forces have had to use some/most of this money to offset the cost of any resettlement activity that they choose to do.

What people leaving the forces have found is that certified resettlement providers i.e. the private sector have put up their costs as they know we have enhanced learning credits. You get something in one hand and its taken out the other.

An example of this: a course in Aldershot has went up from just under £1000 to just over £1800 in one go.

Yes I'm an exavionics technician (RAF) and I just just carn't seem to get my head round this medical equipment game at all.

First I start off as MTO 2 then MTO3 then MTO4(band7)

It makes you wonder how much further I can bluff my way doesn't it?

I guess VRCT is not for you because you've managed to progress without it Paul? Is that a fair comment? Would you consider VRCT?

Incidentally I was wondering why VRCT was not for you Billy? Is it the same reason as (I'm assuming) Paul's is?

Re darth welder

What I found leaving the forces was no money in the station budget so 'you cant have any for training' was the chief clerks words. So I ended up coming back as a civvie on more money and no Guards (Happy days).

Came straight to this job did some equipment training and hey presto here we are today. As for you Paul, good on you I must learn how to bluff.

So RJL you felt my original comments were an attack on you personally and not on the system. You have identified yourself without any help from me but in the process actually attacked me for your own gratification, as for bullying please examine your own tactic as follows
Quote "In fact YOU, TIM, posted all of these comments and, in fact, YOU are the person who started posting nonsense like this. He's still not come up with any arguments relating to the VRCT thread only insults all the way!" you like shouting don't you, "get a life" and welcome to the real world and take a good look a mirror.
Also from your quote you have obviously decided that costs "financially and morally " are not worthy of debate! You appear to be full of your own importance. I have met a few used car salesman in my long career in the NHS I didn't expect to meet one here. I am not sold on your opinions either.

Re Richard

No, I just feel it is an other area of buerocracy that I am going to have to wade through to get anything done. Its another meeting that someone will have to attend.

At the end of the day if it comes in I will tackle the issue (probably head on).

We are better of letting HR do their job, we interveiw for the post. At the end of the day the person you employ has to be able to work as part of the team, and I dont think this registration will do me any good.

Billy

Well it looks like I'll have to post my VRCT certificate back to Mr Methven then.