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Could you please guide me to select a better Blood gas analyser out of the following vendors?

1.Nova Biomedical
2.Radiometer
3.Roche
4.Bayer
5.IL
Please have your comments too
Regards
Sajeev

Sajeev,

Martin Braley at Trafford General is the person to contact over this.

If you send me an email with specific questions I will forward for you.

We have looked quite closely at IL & Roche to replace existing machines and work as first line on both of the PoCT machines we have in SCBU & ICU/HDU.

Dear Sajeev,

You can go Roche...its best..

dear sajeev,
roch is easy to be handled in house biomedical.

ashoke

DEAR SANGEEV

IF YOU ARE LOOKING BASIC UNIT U CAN CONSIDER M248 FROM BAYER OR ABL 5 BOTH ARE RELIABLE AND CONSIDERED MAINTENANCE FREE ONLY ABL5 REQUIRED TO CNANGE JACKETS BUT ITS ELECTRODES ARE MORE LASTING THEN M248

Sajeev,

Other the technical considerations mentioned by the other memebers regarding choice of the BGA, I would consider the running cost of the unit. The cost of the consumables (reagents, kits, controls, gas etc.)and also including the electrodes can be a significant factor to consider. The pratice is our hospital is to get the BGA "free of cost" against the purchase of consumables. At the momenet we are using 248 and 348 from Bayer, which are good, but from this year we are considering Radiometer manily due to the running cost. If space and portability is a consideration, then check out the Nova. Lastly, insist on the vendor to supply the gas cylinder holders from saftey point of view.

We have around 10 Bayers within our trust, and although we do get the occasional clot they are ok unless it's 4 in the morning and your fast asleep when the pager goes off.

Thanks Sanjeev,

I am an ABG Specialist and have been trained in Roche, Bayer, AVL and ABL blood gas machines. Blood gas analyers are very sensitive, consumes more time for troubleshooting due to their nature of analysis. All blood gas analysers give you nightmare at any time if not maintained regularly by users and engineers. We clean all our Roche analysers using deproteiniser once a week minimum to avoid clots and protein deposits on electrodes, mostly on chloride and calcium electrodes . I have worked on all kinds of Bayer ABGs like 200+, 300+, 400+, 800+, etc. Bayer machines are quite stable and electrodes are long lasting . Currently, we are using OMNI C and OMNI 6 which are from ROCHE-AVL . They are quite stable with ready sensors but they don't last as committed by sales bigwicks. I have experienced electrodes lasting between 6 - 12 months max . ABL is still using jackets as some one mentioned earlier which requires frequent maintenance eventhough ABL is the pioneer in ABG productions. IL and Nova have their own merits and demerits and they could be considered in the second category.

Hope this helps.

Sen

I/L have a blood gas machine called the GEM which we have been using on our unit for 4 years.
This machine uses cartridges which contain all the reagents and the electrodes, so there is no maintenance, if there is a problem the staff just insert a new pack and 30 minutes later can carry on sampling. The unused samples in the pack are credited back to you.
We do not get any callouts to this machine and life is a lot simpler.Our unit does about 100 samples a day, so machine down time is not a thing that goes down very well in our unit so this machine fits the bill very well

We look after Roche and Radiometer analysers. We are concerned about the Roche calibrations as it will Calibrate at about any value. Radiometer monitors these calibrations to see if all is ok, it will warn you if calibration points have drifted too much or when they are outside expected windows of operation. Also with Radiometer analysers you can check data & qc plots while the machine is doing something like a measurement, whereas on the Roche you will just have to wait until it has done it's thing before you can look at anything. Our choice would be the Radiometer out of these two.