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Rightio another question that will open a can of worms methinks! I am interested in what banding people are on when responsible for managing an equipment library.
This is controversial, as I know there is a huge mix of banding and skill bases around, but could anyone let me know if they are a Band 6 and if so what their JD is? Is anyone a qualified nurse and what band they are at?

I am a nurse and am currently on a Band 5, but manage staff and have responsibilities beyond my current banding - hence I am considering attmpting a re banding, as you might have guessed?
Any help would be appreciated.

Surely the pay band should be pegged to the job, not the person? If an academic genius chooses to work in an Equipment Library (or, indeed, as a hospital porter ... or anything else for that matter), that's OK. It's up to them. And, personally, I admire such people (I sometimes do work that some would regard as menial myself).

But they should not also expect special treatment when it comes to pay, just because they have a PhD (or whatever).

The banding should be for the job not the individual,thats right.
The overriding thing that affects what band your post is given is who sits on the evaluation banding panel and how awkward they want to be.
We had lots of trouble and eventually the whole department went to full JAQ. Even then we heard from a wall that had ears that a SNM who sat on a panel argued that we didnt do core things within our function.
Best bit of advice I got was find a bod thats sat on job evaluation panels and is friendly to you request and knows a bit about what you do. Then let them pick your JAQ to pieces before you give it in.
And dont underestimate the power of descriptive wording, panels have long list of what a word means e.g difference between manage and organise. They will take you very literally in what you put down on paper.

As geoff says it is the job description not the person who gets the band.
Go through your job description and score it against the AfC rules and see what band it comes out at then add in lots of things to score you points.
E.G. "Frequently lifting heavy loads" rather than just "moving equipment".
The big points scorers are managing a budget and high qualifications. Nursing is degree level but if you put in that you need further qualifications or experience equivalent to higher qualifications you will score more points.

Rememebr points mean prizes.
Robert

I appreciate that it's not your system, Karl. But are we meant to be impressed by any of that?

Ditto Robert.

Keywords. Catch phrases. Ticking boxes. What a lousy system!

Which (over-paid, incompetent) baboon came up with all that, I wonder?

To me, the whole thing stinks!

Yes, but these are the rules we have to play by like it or not.

Robert

Still on a Clinical Scientist pay scale because of the poor AfC banding

Out of respect for my good friend JoLee ... I must decline to comment further!

To be fair ROJO and to pick up on your own point, the banding relates to the job and not the person. Therefore if you have decided to remain on a Clinical Scientist grade because your AfC banding placed you at a point where there was no advantage or even a disadvantage with regard to pay, then you can't blame the system for not rewarding the role and recognising you the individual.

I did not think a clinical scientists pay was all that bad to be fair...

Getting back to Jo's orginal question, I put this reply in a previous thread:-


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To match an AFC job description for banding, two sections ‘must be’ matched; the Knowledge, training and experience (section 2) and Freedom to Act (section 12), you may then fail to match up to 4 of the other sections and as long as you reach the relevant job evaluation score you should get the band.



The staff on the matching panel will not know many of the jobs that they are evaluating; so it is up to the person writing the job description to ensure that the required wording is covered, (for example if the Job profile says “analysing faults in complex multifaceted equipment put it in your job description). If you go for re banding then ensure you use the words from the job profile to make it easy for the evaluation panel to see that you tick the boxes.

Lee