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#51983 04/02/11 5:44 PM
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Just heard that both the general manager, john polhill and technical service director, chris eldred have left the company i the last two weeks. Anybody heard any reasons, sound a bit odd as both of them have been there 20 odd years.

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Which office are you referring to there, John?

Who knows why?

Perhaps they couldn't agree on how to pronounce the company name! whistle

Meanwhile, let's link. In fact, let's dig!


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the uk office

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This would be a big surprise to me if its true. I worked with John Polehill when Artemis Medical lost the Mindray agency to Mindray/Datascope almost 18 months ago. John was well respected by Mindray and always did a great job Datascope.

Any more info on what is going on?
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I assure you it is correct, John P is now with Nonin, I think Chris E has sort of retired.

It seems to be a chinese "management" issue

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I know only too well the different approach that Mindray have to doing business. “We have best price, where’s order?”. A rather simple and less than effect style. When working with companies from that part of the world you have to be aware that they are use to a very ‘Top-Down’ approach. “The company management say customer must buy, so they must buy!”. Little understanding about competition, the role of long term personal relationships and the need to be seen as a long term partner.

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Yes. And (just in case anyone hasn't yet noticed), they are taking over all across the world.

And what has this country (Britain) done? In short, either run down its own manufacturing capabilities or sold what was left to foreign interests. What sort of strategy was (is) that?

Now all those of us on this forum are left with is servicing [censored] equipment that is imported from abroad. frown


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Hmm - all that outsourcing to maximise profit margins so targets could be met - another great example of shortermism! What ever happened to long term planning and sustainable strategies.

8 years ago I could see this happening so why could the management not see it? (the answer is they could, but their greedy need for a big fat bonus impaired their judgement).

And now we are all paying for it by way of this recession...

The Saudi Arabians are building up their manufacturing infrastructure - why is this I wonder - could they be planning for the future when the oil runs dry!



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Eight years? Thirty more like.

The other reason that the Saudis are trying to create a manufacturing base is to be able to offer their own people employment. Well, that's the theory anyway.

Like many other countries (Britain, for example), the population continues to grow at (what could be considered) unsustainable rates. So you end up with legions of fed-up youngsters who have been "promised the Earth", for which the status quo (Old Guard, whatever) can't deliver. Young blokes look around and can't fail to notice (or at least, perceive) that "all the jobs" (what jobs?) are taken by (often itinerant) foreigners. Yes, Saudi Arabia and the UK have much in common, it would seem. The Mega-rich and the dirt poor, for instance.

In places like Saudi Arabia, religion is prominent in all areas of life, of course. Whilst in Britain (as you have already pointed out), greed plays a major part. As do short-sighted policies ... and (dare I say it), moral corruption and sheer incompetence.

However, Saudis still hold strong traditional values, of which they are proud. The English also used to adhere to characteristics that stood us in good stead throughout the ages. But all that seems to have gone as well now. In fact, to be honest, I find difficulty in seeing anything of any real substance in modern British society at all.

Do we actually deserve to fail? You guys can make up your own minds about that. Or, put it another way - if you carry out a SWOT analysis, what do you find?

So let's not bother about Mindray et al. But instead let's look at the Bigger Picture ...

But (lastly) if anyone wants to learn about the methods (and the true cost*) of Chinese "hi-tech" manufacturing, they could do worse than Google Foxconn. This is how the Real World works, in case anyone still hasn't cottoned on.

Best learn Mandarin fast, I guess. frown

* One of the reasons that Apple is set to become the world’s most valuable company this year, by the way.


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