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Just to add to my post :

Page 12 October of the following news letter gives you some idea of the scope and purpose of my mission http://www.ceti.nsw.gov.au/newsletters/w1/i1002809/

Geoff

Don’t you ever sleep ?

It costs significantly less , in fact a fraction of what it would cost to build a database , rename the 2 or 3 thousand pdf ‘s in a 500 bed hospital and create links between the various makes and models so someone who for example has a syringe pump with “Asena “ on it can find it under any of the brand names – ie CareFusion , Cardinal Healthcare , Alaris etc – at the same time keeping it up-dated and by that I mean any clinician can fill in a doc request tab and we contact the manufacturer on their behalf .

It’s based on bed size and I would prefer to keep that out the public domain for now – Thanks comments

It's only nine in the evening just at the moment.

Hopefully I shall be good for a few hours yet.

OK ... but just to speed things along a little ... what are you getting at here:- are you trying to sell the service to hospitals et al worldwide, or what?

Am I right as well in thinking that you're talking about operators' (users') manuals only? And are they for "pay-per-view" downloading, or just unlimited viewing (but by subscription) on line?

And ... how about a link-in from (and to) this forum? How would you feel about that?

We manage and organise documents related to equipment hospitals have purchased ( most of the doc have been sent to us by the + 200 hospitals ) – this is not a subscription – the hospitals have bought this equipment and the associated user manuals etc

Therefore there is no pay- per- view , this is about making the manufacturer’s supplied information related to equipment purchased by the hospital - available 24/7 , accessible via the hospitals intranet and not the general public .

All this information belongs to the hospitals we deal with – we never own it and we don’t limit access within those hospitals so staff can download the relevant doc as many times as they like – limiting access would defeat the whole point

Like all outsourced clinical resources the access is governed by intranet policy of the hospital .

It eliminates Google searches , many individuals sending e-mails or phoning suppliers , hours lost due to missing ( and looking for ) User Manuals

If someone has a problem with a device – the focus is to walk up to a hospital pc – download the doc – fix the problem.

As pointed out – this info does not belong to us – so unfortunately I cannot create an open link ( keep in mind these are only User Docs – no service manuals )

NAMDET are the National Association of Medical Devices Educators and trainers. Please see the website:

www.namdet.org

Their objectives are to:
Raise the status and standing of Medical Device Trainers and Educators

Provide a forum for mutual support and assistance between members

Represent the consensus views and opinions of members at regional and national level

Inform and improve national policy and the regulatory landscape by communicating NAMDET member positions on issues of importance

Positively contribute to reducing adverse medical device incidents

The next meeting will take place at the following time and location:

Date:12thNovember 2012
Room:Boardroom
Time14:00 – 16:30
AddressCentral London Community Healthcare NHS Trust
7th Floor,
64 Victoria Street,
London,
SW1E 6QP

The speaker at the next NAMDET meeting in London will be from McKesson, who will present on how medical devices can be input on to ESR/OLM.

We invite various speakers to these meetings that are held all over the country. NHSLA, CQC and others as decided by our members

If you would like to see what NAMDET are all about, or would like to make contact with others that are having the same dificulties and solutions as your organisations, then please come along to a meeting. The next meeting will take place at the following time and location:

George,
Is that copyright material you are distributing? Be careful the companies do not "object" to what you are doing.
I am totally in agreement that most problems with medical equipment are down to users not knowing how to operate them fully. But is that because the manuals are usually so long and full of arse covering that they are impenetrable and in reality unrealistic to read, take in and remember? I think the best we can do is make simple quick user guides available to the user when they are actually using the equipment.
I did that when I was doing training and the staff found these short pocket guides very useful. Double sided A6 guides that fit in the pocket with the basics on them. manufacturers are you listening?
Robert

JJJohn
If you accidentally double post you can delete it.
Robert

There is also no reason for multiple posting.

@JJJohn (or, if you like, Robert) ... I know that you like acronyms, but is there any chance of telling us lesser folk what some of them actually mean?

1) CQC
2) ESR
3) OLM
4) NHSLA

... and any other worthy of mention.

@Robert: the army has used the Aid Memoire for many years. But I always preferred that course "hand-outs" (course notes, précis ... whatever) were only given out at the end of proceedings.

Meanwhile, we used to encourage participation as the instruction (tuition, mentoring) progressed, if only amounting to having students fill up their own notebooks (and I'm talking about pens and paper here, not electronic toys) ... rather than (for instance) dozing in the their chairs, yawning, playing with their Smart Phones ... or otherwise wasting everybody's time.

Hopefully, John [and some others who get on here] will also remember the "line follow-through diagrams" that we were encouraged (?) to provide for ourselves. Bits of card, or pocket notebooks, with lines showing test point connections - for continuity and/or voltage (generally just the single line, with voltages to be tested WRT "earth"). But the important thing was that each test point had to be accessible in reality on the equipment itself (eg, at a junction box, or whatever), rather that just being a "notional" point on a circuit diagram. Practical ideas like that were handed down from earlier generations of techs, based upon hard-earned lessons learned "in the field" (often literally). After a while, all you needed was your notebook or sheaf of cards (held together by a high-tech elastic band, usually), your bag of tools ... and of course, your AVO! It's a technique that I continued to use from time to time in more recent years (well, I remember doing one in 1996, at least)!

Please start a new thread for acronyms, if required.

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