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More than 2 electrosurgical unit use on one patien #71196 03/11/16 12:51 AM
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Hi,
Could I know if you have request from Surgeons that they needed 4 ESU to operate on one patient to shorten the surgery?
1) May I know how did you to dissuade them?
2) If they insist, what would be the advice to minimise the risk?
3) Does IEC 60601-2-2 have any guildline on the maximum power the patient can withstand?
Thank you.

Re: More than 2 electrosurgical unit use on one patien [Re: Angie98] #71197 03/11/16 12:09 PM
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I seem to remember something like this coming up before. smile

Re: More than 2 electrosurgical unit use on one patien [Re: Angie98] #71203 04/11/16 1:01 AM
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Thanks for the link, Geoff!
The discussion mainly talks about 2 ESU using simultaneously in the situation of Cardiac case where the two site are quite a distance away.
I am wondering if any recommendation for site close by such as breast and groin area?
I remember seeing IEC 60601-2-2 says to limit the maximum power of 400W going in the patient in one of the older edition but could not seems to find one now.

Re: More than 2 electrosurgical unit use on one patien [Re: Angie98] #71209 04/11/16 2:30 PM
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Obviously there are pros and cons ... just as there are with any surgical intervention. But any preceived risks should be weighed against the benefits of shortening the procedure.

But my advice would be to keep out of it! Let the surgeons take responsibility. smile

Re: More than 2 electrosurgical unit use on one patien [Re: Angie98] #71230 14/11/16 6:53 AM
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This is a clinical decision by the surgeon and we normally stay out of this unless the consultation ask for technical advice leading to patient safety.


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Re: More than 2 electrosurgical unit use on one patien [Re: Angie98] #71236 16/11/16 5:39 PM
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It might be a clinical decisions but it is good they are asking for technical advice to help them with the decision making.
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