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VRCT audit.. #73003 16/03/18 4:17 PM
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Anyone else get this "threat"? Doesn't sound like its working out for the VRCT if some can simply ignore this nonsense. We all keep ourselves well up to date here in relevant aspects of our job and don't feel we have to prove that to anyone else. I'm starting to question why I'm paying for this and having to suffer emails like the following..


Registrar's Update
No. 17, March 2018



The policy of the RCT Management Panel (RCTMP) is to keep Registrants informed of activities and progress which have an impact on the Register. A brief report follows.

Upcoming CPD Audit
We are once again approaching the time of year when we carry out the CPD audit. The office will soon be sending out the emails to everyone selected for audit, so I thought it may be worth sharing some information in advance. We have seen several registrants removed from the register recently for failing the audit, with some failing to even submit any evidence of CPD. I would therefore urge everyone to fully engage with the process to ensure this does not happen to you.
The RCT has some very useful information on our website here. I would recommend everyone to spend some time reading the information which has been put together to help you all pass the audit if selected. We even have some anonymised submissions from previous CPD audits to help guide you, although I would hope you have already been recording your CPD as it has been happening throughout the year.
Can you also ensure the office has your correct contact details, if anything has changed recently with your email address then you will need to contact us? We don’t want anyone to fail to respond to a request to submit evidence of CPD due to not having kept their details up to date.


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Re: VRCT audit.. [Re: exitwound] #73004 16/03/18 4:36 PM
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Originally Posted by exitwound

I'm starting to question why I'm paying for this ...


So are we. whistle

Re: VRCT audit.. [Re: exitwound] #73007 19/03/18 4:54 PM
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I don't know what the problem is. We work alongside other health professionals that have to maintain a CPD portfolio to keep their registration, so we should do the same. All that's required is the CPD summary for the RCT so it's relatively easy.

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Re: VRCT audit.. [Re: Kevin McGinn] #73011 20/03/18 2:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin McGinn

... so we should do the same.


Why? Says who? think

We are not medics. And neither are many of us are "certified", "registered" or "licenced".

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Hopefully not wandering too far from the topic ...

What's the deal with CPD?

Am I right in assuming that the "professional" in question is expected to maintain (and/or demonstrate) some sort of continuity in a log book, or whatever? Who maintains the records (and supporting documentation)? See here* (.pdf), for example.

For those lucky enough to be employed in large organisations like Hospital Trusts, does the so-called Human Resources department keep track of all this? Otherwise I can imagine that a tech's "CV file" might need to be trolley-mounted after a few years!

Is CPD clocked up in hours, "points", or what? And how many per year?

Sticking to biomeds ... what sort of "development" counts as CPD? Manufacturers' training courses, seminars and so forth, presumably. But who decides what endeavours are valid for CPD (rather than simply "jollies", or other nebulous activities), and how many hours/points they are worth?

Does a hundred hours of fault-finding (soldering practice, electrical safety testing, reading IEC-62353 or BS-7671 - or even "on-line research") etc. count?

In the Real World, how "continuous" does CPD need to be? If a person has been away from work for a while (as in, years), do they have to start again, as it were?

And the thought occurs:- can you "self certify"? whistle

Has anyone ever come across any bogus CPD documentation; or are "embelished" CVs a thing of the past these days?

Lastly - does CPD come up when seeking work; at interviews, for example? smile

Meanwhile, I'm guessing that this is what Mr. Exitwound was referring to.

* This guy seems to have had a lot of time away from his actual job (whatever it was)!

Re: VRCT audit.. [Re: exitwound] #73014 20/03/18 4:57 PM
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Many colleagues feel the same as Mr Exitwound, so I seem to be in the minority.

All the documentation, list of activities and CPD Summary examples of are clearly there on Geoffs link.The process of joining RCT is quite rightly challenging so I'm not going to let it lapse and waste that time and effort. I've been updating my CPD summary since 2014 when RCT started auditing and have got used to putting activities in my phone diary then updating my CPD summary when I get time.

Many job person specs state RCT as desirable and tenders for service contracts I've seen have specified RCT registered staff as essential.

A band 6 medical engineer is paid the same as a specialist nurse so should be able to produce evidence that they are at that level. Our non NHS competitors in the private sector are now becoming registered too, so it seems to becoming a benchmark for this kind of work.

A hospital Chair once asked me: "What's the best medical device 'fix' you've ever done?". I couldn't answer because we're all doing that work every day (and night when on call). These can be faults found, procurement, highly skilled repairs or workrounds to get a clinical service up and running. However, none of these 'fixes' are in our CV's but they should be in our CPD activities with a job number as evidence - it would take 30 seconds to tap it into your phone.

I think IPEM could do more to explain the process and benefits - regional meetings perhaps?

However, the bottom line is that no one is forced to join RCT, but when you do you pledge to maintain and update your skill and knowledge in the profession by maintaining your CPD, or drop off the register!

Re: VRCT audit.. [Re: Kevin McGinn] #73015 20/03/18 5:22 PM
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Not so sure that you're in the minority, Kevin, as I've come across many (on this forum, in the main) who seem to agree with what you're saying.

I have also come across a fair number of techs (working in the NHS, it has to be said) who seemed to take great delight in taking days off from the "real work" to attend (what I regarded as nebulous) "courses" such as "Diversity", "Gender Awareness" and so forth. So no doubt their CPD Portfolios were positively glowing (not to mention, over-flowing).

Needless to say I was always too busy doing the "real work" to attend such diversions, myself. whistle

However, I can see the need for CPD - especially for younger folk progressing through our Trade* - just as long as the process is properly managed (regulated, whatever). smile

After all, many moons ago when I was just a small cog in a Large Organisation myself, we all had to (attempt to) re-qualify on certain skills every year. Depending upon how important the activity was to their assigned role, sometimes those who failed would suffer financial penalty, miss a promotion, or some such downer. Perhaps that sort of thing is what is really needed to keep folk on their toes!

Meanwhile, and unfortunately, I doubt that "my best faults" would hold much sway with the Gods of CPD, because, as far as I can tell, CPD sessions appear to count only when activities are, shall we say, peripheral to the tech's everyday role.

* Not profession? Just to wind-up the Usual Suspects, really.

Re: VRCT audit.. [Re: exitwound] #73016 20/03/18 8:54 PM
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Every professional body sends out these "threats" I've had one from the IET also, they've got a web page that explains what actually count's as CPD.

HR departments don't keep track of an individuals CPD it's considered an individual choice what CPD you do. The only legal requirement they have is to record your stat/mandatory training. Your line manager should have some input on equipment training as workforce planning.

Reading IEC-62353 or BS-7671 or online research would count, but unless you hadn't done soldering in a long while I doubt soldering practice would. Nursing has reflection and a few companies use black box thinking.

Continuous does mean continuous as if you look at the IET examples your probably doing it anyway and just didn't realise! No embellished CVs aren't a thing of the past if anything it's common. Although it's one thing to claim you've managed x number of employees and other to have a CMI certificate or health and safety training. Yes, you can self-certify if you claim to have knowledge of something this will be tested at an interview.

Although on the question of
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why I'm paying for this
I'd stick with the VRCT for now as employers do state it being desirable with some essential. Although it looks like the Government is asking a similar question as there was a consultation process on professional registers including PSA.

One of the issues is that each professional register acts differently, what might be a red card for a nurse on the NMC will probably be a warning for a doctor on the GMC. Then there's the fact that there are loads of registers so which register do you join? There are some people on the Academy for Healthcare science. To a member of the public, they just won't get all this so there was a proposal of one public facing register.

Then there's the fact that not everybody joins voluntary registers and if there is a fitness to practice question, it's highly unlikely that they will not be on the register. Therefore for some groups, it has been suggested that prohibition orders might be an alternative. The consultation certainly seems worth keeping an eye on as the VRCT might become obsolete.

Re: VRCT audit.. [Re: Chris Watts] #73017 20/03/18 9:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Watts

... if you look at the IET examples your probably doing it anyway and just didn't realise!


So it would seem. smile

Apparently it's called the RCT now (no V); and the Register holds 2,555 names.

Re: VRCT audit.. [Re: exitwound] #73018 20/03/18 10:35 PM
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Go and view the register on the RCT website and then type 'suspend' in the search box - I don't think with 7 suspensions out of 2555 people, anyone has much to fear...and then what exactly are you suspended from? - a voluntary register! laugh

The whole thing is a complete waste of time, effort and money (IMO).



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Re: VRCT audit.. [Re: Rob1234] #73020 20/03/18 11:00 PM
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Fair enough, Rob. smile

What's your take on CPD? think

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