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It's interesting what you're saying there, Howard ... about (some) tests not being included in OEM procedures.

Are you referring to the "new" (latest, current) FX8?

As you may be aware, there are folk about who insist that we should "always follow the manufacturer's procedures".

Am I right in assuming that the 30-40 minute PM you mention is carried out using Datrend test equipment?

How often, do you suggest?


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Hi all, from the last two posts, yes the PM procedure is carried out 30-40 minutes using Datrend test kit.

With regards to the UFP (Bovie) output. On the FX8-C (Old version), and EZ-C there is a pencil output with activation for Cut and Coag, and a Bovie (UFP) output. The pencil output (the left hand tine) is the hot (active) output, but there is, in the FX8 also a UFP socket in the pencil output.

How many engineers move the footswitch to control output socket 2 no the FX8 and EZ-C and measure output on socket 2?

One of my customers had to repair one the UFP ports, but there is not an instruction to test it, it is an alternative output for the surgeon. On the EZ-C there is a second UFP only output socket, driven by a front panel footswitch, yet it does not say to test that either... Interesting. Now we have an extended PM procedure that includes these tests, available to all, free.

I note on the new FX8-FT10, there are also UFP sockets, they are even easier to test than the old FX8 and EZ-C, but note Medtronic specify a 10Mhz bandwidth for the tester (coil and RMS meter, oscilloscope, or ESU analyser). (page 6-9). The test sequences are built into the ESU, but testing takes around the same time.

More sockets on an ESU - More tests, especially cross coupling (so complicated!)

If anyone wants to discuss it further we will be the EBME show at the end of June,

Howard

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UFP: Universal Footswitching Port ... large single pin socket (for large single pin plug - or jack plug - sometimes known as the "Bovie").

For some reason (probably nothing more than "tradition"), these are found on almost all electrosurgical units.

I would attach an image if they were available to this thread!

Re: test equipment ... yes; that has always been the problem with testing ESUs. It seems that every manufacturer has his own ideas. Not to mention his list of "must have" (expensive) test equipment. Not so bad if you're only serving a single hospital (or group of hospitals using the same ESUs), but a real headache when supporting equipment in many and various locations (each with their own favourite ESUs). A few years ago one manufacturer was talking about testing and calibration procedures that required current sensing transformers. Apparently, that was the "only true way" of measuring the RF output(s). What we need is a truly universal approach!


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Hi dudes!
Could anyone send me a copy of this service manual?
- Covidien Valleylab FX8-

Many thanks in advance.

Best regards.

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hi gays! I have trouble with valleylab fx8 , i have 212 and 214 error. May be somebody know how to fix errors. Or can send me service manual copy for email. ams@eleps.ru
I will be wery grateful

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Hi screwdriver..... check your mail.

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hello guys.
My valleylab FX8 deivce is faulty with 159 code error when doing the operation.
This error is not shown in service manual. So sombody know how to fix this error.

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I have never seen Error 159 declared anywhere on line. But check-out this earlier thread. There may be a clue there.

Good luck.


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Hi everyone, having trouble with some error codes, mainly 212 and 217, I think it might be a controller board issue
Anyone able to send a copy of the FX8 service manual to reuben.eng636@gmail.com
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What is the recent history of this equipment? It could be a faulty battery on the control board resulting in the loss of battery-backed memory. As such, calibration values are probably lost.

The remedy will most likely be something along the lines of battery replacement followed by re-calibration of the unit.

Good Luck!


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