Richard what I'm talking about is battery manufactures like Moltech and the likes who produce a generic smartcell like the NJ1020HP and similar ranges which they produce in both their own brand and without a label for other device manufactures to put their own labels on.

Now if you could confirm that someone like EuroEnergy or Medgraphic were purchasing Moltech batteries and just programming the E2proms and they confirm they are equivilent, there would be slightly less risk than say purchasing a custom battery like the FR2 battery from a them.

Further more when purchasing batteries if you could confirm that Philips or another supplier used bog standard NJ1020HP it does raise the possibility of going direct to Moltech